Of course this has not erased the crisis

RPR. And commended the "voluntarism" of Nicolas Sarkozy, which is the Special Advisor to the Elysee Palace.

Why not join you to the symposium organized by the relatives of François Fillon

I am pleased that it celebrates the memory of Philippe Séguin. I do it myself whenever I get the chance because it embodied something which I deeply believe and I would like to see stay alive through his memory. I still visit Wednesday next at the invitation of the University of Aix to pay him tribute.

Let's say that François Fillon is not in your eyes a Séguin heir...

I attended this Thursday the inauguration by François Fillon of Gallery Philippe Séguin in the Court of Auditors and I always found ridiculous quarrels about who holds a piece of the true cross.

What remains of the séguinisme

The séguinisme, as the Gaullist, is neither a doctrine, or ideology, still less a religion. It is an attitude, a way of being and thinking in policy. It is a personal story that was for me, and I think at the bottom for many French, a deep meaning intellectual, moral and political.

A State including attitude

At the State, nation, history... Philippe Seguin had two essential references: General de Gaulle and the Republic. What was the bottom, for him, the same thing. The Republican ideal, it does was not only in his thought, in his speech, he also embodied it in his career. The father died in the war, the parent teacher the student only, the more loved France that it is distant and idealised.

Its values are so threatened that we should celebrate them

We live in a time of profound dismay that feeds an increasing need of this Republic Philippe Séguin embodied with as much force. The emotion aroused by his death is up to this distress.

Is it not also a finding of failure on the five-year period

This problem is not the order of the jurisdiction of a single country nor a quinquennium. All developed countries, and not only the France, are plunged into a crisis deep, intellectual, moral and identity, societal, to which the ordinary policy concentrated on conditions and management, cannot answer. Philippe Séguin he had been approached before many others and the President of the Republic was correct to speak of "politics of civilization." We have built, collectively, for thirty years, an untenable system. When we place, for example, the lure of profit above all, this inevitably creates a problem of civilization. It is necessarily destructive.

Political power does have the power to reverse things

This is not the right way to ask the question. The politics is the expression of the collective will oppose determinisms yesterday the nature today markets or technique, which threaten to enslave the human. This is the basis of the idea of civilization. This was the adventure of modernity since the parts. Or that we live for thirty years A great return back, with the idea that the nature of things is stronger than human will and that can no longer anything about anything. The formula once used by Lionel Jospin, "the State cannot not everything", is indicative of this moral failure. It would have been better to say: "I do not want to intervene, that is why, and I took it." The difference between the two formulas, it is the political responsibility which, in a case is claimed and assumed, and the other denied. The Republic according to Seguin, is a non-smoking cessation as when he denounced the "social Munich". The policy is always something. For better or for worse. But if we abandon this belief, as was done for thirty years, it is sure of the worst.

Is there of the carriers of this message now

This is the meaning of my involvement with Nicolas Sarkozy. If I followed him, it is because he wanted to embody the political voluntarism. This does not mean that it enough to want to succeed, but we cannot succeed if is never nothing. And ultimately, this is what he did. In the crisis, he has demonstrated an exceptional voluntarism to the other heads of State and he has trained. Of course, this has not erased the crisis. But it would have been much more dramatic if the France had not delivered the policy in Europe, if it had not generated the creation of the g-20.

The controversy around the euro gives them a posteriori reason to Philippe Séguin

It was in the "speech to the France" that Philippe Séguin who had objected to the single currency, Editor's note delivered to the Assembly at the time of Maastricht. He had all anticipated, all scheduled and especially once it's done, it would be impossible to go back. Out of the euro would be a colossal cost. We now manage the consequences of the choice of the single currency. It is clear that we cannot have a sufficient budget European solidarity to compensate for the disappearance of the monetary adjustments between Member countries. The euro is viable on a condition: each is put in his own and is convinced of the need of any do diverge least possible others. This is what calls the France.

Should make a priority of the fight against deficits

That we should seek the financial balance is obvious. Should both streamline the administrative machine, public interventions, but also treat everything which the company produced endogenously of public expenditure. It is in structural reforms and the preparation of the future that is actually the key to the recovery of our balances. The reform of pensions and same - paradoxically - the great loan are among the most important contributions to the consolidation of our public finances. Find the balance to find expansion, but a sick society in terms of values, guides, the report in the future, at the time, can not be a company expanding.

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